2 posts back i ranted on about how wonderful Zeitgeist movement was because it negated religion, nations etc etc. I'd like to say that i still think those distinctions arent useful any more on the XXI century, and that our progress depends on changing our perspective on those things
So i went off and read 2 pdfs which you can download from the site:
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/A-DesigningtheFutureE-BOOK-small.pdf
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/The%20Zeitgeist%20Movement.pdf
Ok in a nutshell, what the 'leader' of the movement wants to do is.
Remove law
Remove currency 'A Resource-Based Economy utilizes existing resources rather than commerce. All goods and services are available without the use of currency, credit, barter or any form of debt or servitude.'
Eliminate democracy 'In a Resource-Based Economy, people do not make decisions; they arrive at them through the use of advanced technological tools that incorporate The Scientific Method.'
Create some kind of science fiction world where decisions are made by machines 'The delegation of decision making to computers is the next step.'
So... what pisses me off is that they tap into genuíne concerns which have a real basis to propel this kind of idealistic, fairytale agenda. I feel like i've been fooled by a pseudo-communist sect that insults everything i believe in.
Good riddance Zeitgeisters!
Sunday, May 24, 2009
I was mistaken
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I was sorely dissappointed to have sat through part 1, which was fantastic, then part 2 which just about ruined the whole thing for me. It didn't piss me off but there were major holes in their theory about what might solve the ills of our society. To their credit, I believe more than once, they stated that this was not a perfect solution. I would go one step further in saying that while it sounds nice it is no solution at all. It simply does not address the heart of the human condition, therefore misses the point that men are not content with what they have. They will always be grasping for contentedness, until they see and understand the illusion that is their reality. In other words, no matter how you dress it, a turd is still a turd.
ReplyDeleteTruth is i was kind of enthusiastic about it... even Bill Hicks had a 'Zeitgeistic' overtone about him..., ending wars, nations etc and living like we were supposed to.
ReplyDeleteI didn't really expect some new Scientology thing... i thought this was an actual political movement without this ugly 'science fiction' subtext
Moreover, i think they didn't adress lust for power on their 'ideal' society which is one of the very basic human motivators
I've spent most of my adult life studying philosophy, particularly politcal philosophy. This meant that I had to have an understanding of the cultural impressions on the author in order to understand what led them to thier conclusions. All were sound when considered in this context, very conclusive and peruasive. From Plato to Wittgentsien, they have all tried to find the 'ultimate truth.' You know what the ultimate truth is? It's ultimately true that everyone is different, there are no right or wrong answers, the truth is relevant to that person or individual. When I realised that I became more open to viewpoints I disagreed with, and it has certainly helped me in my career as a police officer. Is God the shackles of mankind? No, the notion of God - whether you believe it to be an existence or merely to provide the moral virtues by which you choose to live your life - is a sound one and should not be discounted.
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While i agree that every side has valid arguments, my view is that organized religion (the major religions in the western world at least) serve no other purpose than to serve themselves.
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of morality and God, again i think that there is no reason to believe some pre-defined moral code that tells us to do things out of fear of punishment by a non-descript entity. We just need some common sense to behave in a moral way.
That said a lot of the issues you've raised (Politics, Political Philosophy, Absolute truth, Existence of God) are too complicated to respond in sound-byte form : )
Anyway my opinion is that something that restricts our individual freedom without some very firm basis is wrong
I feel like you've certainly jumped to conclusions to say so in the least in regards to the Zeitgeist Movement.
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